First Garifuna Forum, Los Angeles, April 2005

FIRST GARIFUNA COMMUNITY FORUM
LOS ANGELES 2005
OFFICIAL AGENDA

Friday, April 15

Arrival of Guest Speakers at LAX

Saturday, April 16

09:00am – Welcome to the First Garifuna Community Forum L.A. 2005
- Sign Guestbook
- Issue of Name Tags
- Issue of Pens and Writing Pads
- Sign the Family Tree (wallpaper)
- Be Seated

09:15am – OPEN OF THE FIRST GARIFUNA COMMUNITY FORUM L.A. 2005
- By M.C. Cheryl Noralez & Rony Figueroa (LA), 2 Minutes

09:17am – Opening Remarks by a Proud Garifuna Dr. Cadrin E. Gill, Honorary Consul
General - Consulate of St. Vincent And The Grenadines (Yurumein), 5 Minutes

09:22am – INTRODUCTION OF GUEST SPEAKERS
- By M.C. Cheryl L. Noralez & Rony Figueroa, 5 Minutes

09:30am – Introduce Mr. Cadrin E. Gill, MD., F.A.A.F.P. (SV – LA)
- Making of Movie about the Life of Chief Chatuye
- Opening of the Garifuna Museum in Baliceaux
- My Own Garifuna History from St. Vincent’s Perspective

10:00am – Introduce Mr. Melecio R. Gonzalez (LA)
- Garifuna History

10:30am – Introduce Mr. Jerry Castro, Lidani Garifuna Times (NY)
- Political Movement
- Garifunamericans
11:00am – Introduce Mr. Flavio Alvarez, Wanaragua Chief of L.A. (LA)
- Culture and Traditions

11:30pm – Introduce Mrs. Minerva Delgado, Community Leader (LA)
- Garifuna Unity

12:00pm – Questions and Answers for this first half of the forum

01:00pm –LUNCH BREAK
Viewing of Paintings by Garifuna Artist Greg Palacio (LA)

02:00pm – Introduce Ms. Felene Cayetano, Author & Publisher (NY)
- Library System in Garifuna Communities
- Elderly Care

02:30pm – Introduce Mr. James Lovell, Recording Artist (NY)
- The Message behind Garifuna Music

03:00pm – Introduce Mr. Martin Bermudez, Denovo Technologies (DC)
- Business Development & Technology

03:30pm – Introduce Mrs. Josefina Gregorio, President Hermandad Livingsteña (LA)
- Networking among non-profit organizations
- Building of a community hospital in La Buga

04:00pm – Introduce Rev. Andrew Nuñez, President Evangelical Garifuna Churches in
The United States (NY)
- Garifuna Leadership

04:30pm – Questions and Answers for second half of the forum

05:30pm – Conclusion

05:35pm – End of Forum

08:00pm – Social Mixer & Dance
(Social Mixer & Dance is not organized by the First Garifuna Community Forum L.A. 2005)
- Social Dance hosted by: LIBAYA BABA CULTURAL GROUP
- Event held here at MAABATUWA CULTURAL CENTER
5020 South Normandie Avenue Los Angeles, CA 90037
(323) 298-4519


SUNDAY, APRIL 17, 2005

12:00pm – Farewell hosted at “P.G. HOLE” Garifuna Social Club
Corner of 48th Street and Hoover Street Los Angeles

Confirmed attendances from:
DJ ERVIN ARZU, Recording Artist (New York)
JORDAO GONZALEZ, Isanigu Punta Rock Soul-Jahs (New York)

Pending confirmation from:
NOLBERTO PALACIOS, Garifuna Stars Band (New York)
GADU NUNEZ, Recording Artist

GUEST SPEAKERS: If you need any photos or audiovisual equipment to help you with your presentation, please feel free to e-mail us back with your request. We will be using a computer with an overhead projector with a large screen on the wall.

BIO: All guest speakers are encouraged to send their Curriculum Vitae via e-mail at:
mamagapg@yahoo.com as soon as possible so we can add it to the Program to be distributed among the audience who will attend the forum.

NOTE: Be advised that you are welcome and entitled to bring any materials for distribution during the social mixer hours. These materials could include: CD’s, Cassettes, Books, T-Shirts, etc. We do not encourage the sale or distribution of these materials during the forum; however, you are asked to promote and sell these articles during the Social Mixer & Dance at Maabatuwa Cultural Center that same night. Only pamphlets, brochures, business cards and any other material associated with your presentation will be allowed to be distributed during the forum.

* Agenda is subject to change if necessary

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact:
Cheryl Noralez or Rony Figueroa
(562) 366-9396 Home Number or (323) 304-1727 Cell Phone

Goodbye to "A.N.A.C.A.O.N.A"

A majority of the CAC Editors recently voted to terminate a robot. That robot was named "A.N.A.C.A.O.N.A." (Anything About the Aboriginal Caribbean from an Online Networked Assistant). The experiment lasted just over two years and while at first there seemed to be, at best, mixed results, eventually it became apparent that the project was a failure on many counts. The robot, made available via Pandorabots, using AIML software, would routinely fail to follow the simple context of a conversation and would thus lead users astray. In many cases, the robot inadvertently offended users even when its knowledge base should have enabled it to give a correct answer. For example, if asked "how many" indigenous descendants were living in Cuba, it would answer something to the effect of "none as far as I know". In fact, as the programmer, all I could train the robot to know was that there are indeed indigenous descendants in Cuba, but not how many. The appearance and the name of the robot also disturbed a number of users, who in most cases simply refused to understand that the resource was made available to us for free, but under severe limitations. In addition, the robot seemed to attract an inordinate amount of sexual attention (what is so erotic about a piece of talking software is itself intriguing), with conversations often degenerating into frustration and aggression--hardly the aims that the Caribbean Amerindian Centrelink would wish to pursue. Meant to serve as a more visually engaging, interactive and talking version of a FAQ list, especially one that might appeal to young children, it instead became the vehicle for childish behavior. As a more modern means of paying tribute to, and extending the memory of, the historical Anacaona (about whom the CAC continues to maintain a list of resources), the robot achieved the opposite effect of our good intentions: several criticized the tawdry and insensitive manner that the robot seemingly stood for the historical figure. Some saw this as a cartoonish, misleading, misrepresentation of an historical figure who is revered by many of today's Tainos. Having reviewed very many conversation logs, we inevitably came to the conclusion that our purposes could be better served by other means. To the many people who were disappointed, disillusioned, or worse yet, offended by this experiment, I offer my sincerest apologies.

New Book on the Caribs of Arima, Trinidad

Ruins of Absence, Presence of Caribs: (Post) Colonial Representations of Aboriginality in Trinidad and Tobago, to be released by the University Press of Florida in June, 2005, is now available for pre-orders with a special 35% discount, valid until June 15, 2005.

For more details, see: http://www.centrelink.org/srccbook.htm

Dominica's Minister of Tourism Defends Disney, Feb. 18, 2005

ROSEAU, Dominica (AP) — The tourism minister on Tuesday defended plans for an upcoming Disney movie expected to portray Dominica’s Carib Indians as cannibals, calling the film a work of fiction that could bring economic benefits to the poor island. The government has said Disney is planning to use the island as a shooting location for the sequel to the 2003 blockbuster “Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl.” Production could begin in April. On Sunday, Carib Indian chief Charles Williams said he was informed by Disney producers that parts of the script portray the group’s ancestors as cannibals — a characterization Caribs have long denied. Williams is calling on Disney to remove references to cannibalism, which he says would malign the group. Tourism Minister Charles Savarin called the criticism unwarranted. “Nobody is saying that (the film) is an accurate historical report of what happened in Dominica,” Savarin said in a statement broadcast by private Kairi FM radio. “We have to get beyond our history and not continue trying to live in the past.” Savarin said Dominica, one of the poorest island’s in the Caribbean, stands to benefit greatly from exposure in the movie, but warned that criticism could prompt Disney to film elsewhere. He urged critics “not adopt a position which will have a negative impact on the welfare of the society.” Walt Disney declined to say if the film would refer to Caribs as cannibals.

Protesting Disney's Cannibalism in St. Vincent

Dominican Caribs receive support in fight over scenes in “Pirates of the Caribbean” sequel

From CANA (Caribbean News Agency) for February 19, 2005:

The St. Vincent and the Grenadines Historical and Archaeological Society has called on Vincentians to boycott the sequel to the blockbuster movie “Pirates of the Caribbean” unless “grossly offensive” scenes depicting Caribs as cannibals are removed from the script.

Indigenous rights groups recommend changes to draft law provisions

In a Stabroek News report from Guyana, dated Tuesday, 22 February, 2005, it was reported that indigenous rights groups, including the Amerindian Peoples' Association (APA), the Amerindian Action Movement of Guyana (TAAMOG), the National Amerindian Development Foundation (NADF) and the Guyana Organisation of Indigenous People (GOIP), escalated their efforts to secure revision of some of the controversial new provisions of legislation being proposed. First, Cabinet will consider the proposed legislation, then it will be taken to the national assembly for a vote on its enactment.

In fact, indigenous groups have been most concerned about the powers to be wielded by the Minister for Amerindian Affairs. The Minister, Carolyn Rodrigues, explained the need for her active involvement in the internal affairs of Amerindian communities: "Everyday I meddle because everyday you have complaints coming from the village." In addition, she argued, Amerindian councils have in the past tried to establish rules that were in conflict with the Constitution. One of the points of contention is whether the Minister should approve new Amerindian Council rules, or whether their collective National Toshao's Council should be charged with the approval process. After all, as the Co-President of the Guyana Human Rights Association observed, only if Councils established rules that were in fact in direct violation of the Constitution would the Minister need to be involved--otherwise, there should be no need for approval of all rules.

Under the proposed draft legislation, any rule or amendment to a rule made by a village council would not come into effect unless the council consults the community general meeting and gains two-thirds approval. After that, it must be approved by the Minister and published in the Official Gazette.

Representatives of the various indigenous bodies were also dismayed that the new legislation did not employ the term "indigenous peoples" as was proposed during the first round of consultations almost three years ago. Dr. George Norton told the meeting that the word "Amerindian" is a misnomer as the people are neither Americans nor Indians and he said he found it difficult to accept a title that was based on the misconceptions of past eras. Norton said that "indigenous peoples" apart from being used in the constitution also has a legal meaning, as legally it applies only to those descendants of pre-colonial inhabitants.

Dr. Desrey Fox, a linguist, argued however that also the term "indigenous peoples" was problematic for its part because it seem to deny the birthright of other groups of people born in the country who also have a claim to nativity. Fox's proposed solution was to have the communities use their ancestral names or the term "First People." One might also note that the organizations present at the meeting varied in the use of "Amerindian" or "indigenous peoples" in the very names of their organizations.

Ways of defining and establishing who is "Amerindian" also provoked some debate among the participants at the meeting. The draft proposes that an Amerindian would be defined as any citizen of Guyana who belongs to any of the native or aboriginal peoples of the country or any descendant of such a person.

Yet, some of the indigenous representatives at the meeting argued that definition was too broad. According to the newspaper report, it "could mean that third or fourth generation descendants without the traditional physical features or any connection to a village would be recognised by the law."

Attorney Arif Bulkan, active in the rounds of consultations, worried that a restricted and racial definition of Amerindian would shut out persons who identify with the indigenous way of life, and that it is important to see Amerindian-ness as something more subsantive than visible physical features alone. The APA's Jean La Rose wondered about citizens who did not belong any of the nine recognized nations in the country.

On the subject of research in Amerindian communities, the groups were also concerned about the rigorous criteria for entry into the villages as is set out in the draft, specifically for scientific and other research. The draft proposed that any person wishing to carry out any research must obtain the permission of the village council, the minister and permits required under any other written law. The person would also have to provide the village council or the minister with a full written report of his/her findings, a copy of all recordings made and a copy of any publication containing material derived from the study. The person would also be required to get the permission of the council, the Culture Minister and other agencies before making any commercial use of the research.

What participants questioned again was whether the consent of the Minister was needed, even after a local council had given its permission. Rodrigues said it was a safeguard because in the past persons have posed as tourists to get into communities and then later published reports that the councils themselves disputed.

McCormack, of the Guyana Human Rights Association, felt the criterion was ominous as it left the Minister to interpret what is scientific research while also allowing her to prohibit research that did not meet the government's approval.

For more information, contact:

Fergus MacKay
Coordinator,
Three Guyanas and Legal/Human Rights Programme
Forest Peoples Programme
Ph./fax 31-20-419-1746